Henry Gidley in the Goldminers' Database, New Zealand, 1861-1886

 Kae Lewis in New Zealand has produced a useful database of gold miners in the Thames goldrush on North Island, New Zealand:  the Goldminers' Database.

Henry Gidley has three mentions: 3 Nov 1868 in Karaka, Thames; 6 May 1869 in Karaka Creek, Thames Claim Register; and 9 Dec 1869 in Karaka.

On p.697 of Kae Lewis's book Goldrush to the Thames, N.Z. 1867-69 quoted on her website, she details conditions in the mines there: 

A specimen rock (from Kae Lewis' website) 

"It took grit and determination to decide to dig the shaft down 100 feet... using only the flickering light of a candle the digger chipped away at the rock with his pick, examining each chunk of quartz.... lost beneath the earth with tons of rock over his head and knowing it could all come down on him any moment."

Could Henry have struck lucky? In 1875 he is recorded as a miner owning 1200 shares (one of the largest shareholders) in the Effort Gold Mine and that same year as a hotelkeeper who owned 275 shares in the Ajax Mining Company. He held licences for three hotels in the Thames district at various times - the Melbourne, the Criterion and the Wynyard Arms.

Henry was a veteran of the 65th Foot Regiment, awarded the New Zealand Medal and granted land there in 1870 by the Crown Lands Office.  His funeral notice in the Auckland Star on 10th May 1921 mentioned his former regiment and he was invited to an At Home of veterans at Government House in 1900.

In 1874 he married Hannah Green but I haven't traced any children. I have provisionally allocated him as the son of William Gidley of Dartington, Devon, and Lucy Partridge but there is one problem: Henry's funeral notice descibed him as "of Devon" and William's son Henry was born in Chelsea, London in 1833 and moved with his whole family to Liverpool by 1846. However, the 65th Foot was a North Country regiment.

The Gidley coat of arms

 I know many of you are interested in the Gidley coat of arms and some have requested permission to use it. This is usually denied, as conditions of its inheritance are strictly applied by the College of Arms. But I thought you may be interested in how it was re-registered in the 19th century, as reported by Bartholomew Courtenay Gidley [1835-1918, born in Ilminster, Somerset, sometime wine merchant in London], and reproduced in the Gidley Record Notebook which was kindly transcribed by Chris Lassam when it was put up for auction in 2023.

Following the story of re-registering there is a very long description of the arms, using heraldic terms, attempting to work out the reasons for what was included on the device.

"But for a curious incident which happened about the year 1876, the grant of arms would never have been registered, nor the pedigree constructed. My cousin Bartholomew Charles Gidley [1839-1888] of Exeter, solicitor and Town Clerk of Exeter, had, when at Oxford University, had a friend called Harrison, who after they left college, became the Windsor Herald. Bartholomew Charles Gidley, being on business in London and having a little time on his hands, went to the College of Arms and asked Harrison if he would allow him to see the entries of the Gidley family. He said certainly and he would go and look them up. After a short time he returned and said that the name of Gidley was not in the index. Bartholomew Charles Gidley said that this was very strange, as he had seen the grant itself: it was in the possession of Mr Gustavus Gidley [1821-1910] of Plymouth, the oldest living representative of the senior branch of the family. Harrison asked if he could tell him who signed it and he said Bysshe Clarenceaux. At which Harrison said that, no doubt owing to the troubles of that year (1666 when the house occupied by the Heralds was burnt in the Fire of London), many of Bysshe's grants were unregistered.My cousin asked what could be done to remedy the defect and Harrison said that if we could produce a reliable pedigree from the time of the grant up to date he would register it. My cousin Bartholomew Charles Gidley therefore wrote to me say he would look after the Devon part of the pedigree. After some months we both accomplished our respective shares of the work to the satisfaction of the College and the grant and pedigree were officially registered."

Another new DNA discovery as a member tests from a different branch

 If you can trace your ancestors back to Woodbury, Whitestone, Tedburn St Mary and Cheriton Bishop (all in Devon) then there is a DNA breakthrough. Situated in mid Devon, Tedburn St Mary, Cheriton Bishop and Whitestone are fairly close to Spreyton where there was a known branch of the Winkleigh Gidleys (those who have the well-known Bartholomew Gidley on their tree), It seemed reasonable to suppose that they were an offshoot from that tree. And I think that in the distant past I read on a long disappeared website that there was an oral tradition in their family that Bartholomew Gidley had walked to London to make his fortune.

Cheriton Bishop, Toll House

However, it is now cetrtain that there is no shared male ancestor with Bartholomew Gidley at all (his haplogroup was entirely different). The tree I call Woodbury, Whitestone and Kent shares a common ancestor with the Gidleys from Chudleigh, Dean Prior and Cornwall, the closest being Chudleigh, where a common ancestor was likely to have been born around 1630.

Tedburn St Mary, Little Chapel

For more recent ancestors, if they lived (or still live) in Loughborough, Stoke on Trent, St Paul's Cray and Dartford in Kent or in Somerset, then this is very likely to be your DNA match. It also applies to ancestors in places where there are/were members of more than one branch, for example, Portsmouth, Tiverton, Torbay, Exeter and Islington, so not all Gidleys who lived in those places.

I'm not an expert on Devon economic history, but many Gidleys seem to have moved from mid Devon to the south of the county, where there were all the maritime activities, like fishing, the naval dockyard, etc. The earliest ancestor for the Woodbury, Whitestone and Kent branch was a John Gidley who married Grace Rouden in 1745 in Cheriton Bishop, and was buried in 1789 in Tedburn St Mary, very close by. I did find it interesting that a man (or his immediate forebears) we now know was from South Devon should have bucked the trend and moved over 30 miles north to Crediton. He was described as a yeoman of Crediton in 1775.

Eric Gidley from the Chudleigh branch has come to the conclusion that his ancestor John Gidley who died in 1884 in Kangaroo Flat, Victoria, Australia is most likely to be John Gidley, christened in 1790 in Dean Prior, Devon, son of James Gidley (1762-1830) and Susanna Hodge. I had tentatively identified this John as the one who was buried in Stoke Damarel in Devon in 1837, of Boot Lane, aged 48, so I looked for another John of approximately the right age to substitute. There are dozens of baptisms for a John Gidley but there are never enough when a specific year is needed, and all the others born about 1788 - 1790 were already allocated to trees. It is pretty obvious that there were many, many baptisms never recorded. A burial in Stoke Damarel, being so close to Plymouth, may be of a John Gidley from another part of the country, London, for example, although there isn't one in my database.

The Gidley DNA project is growing gradually, but we still need more (male) participants), so do please volunteer, especially if you are from the USA. It does need to be a FamilyTreeDNA test for Y-DNA, and not Ancestry, though if you have matched with other Gidleys on Ancestry it would be interesting to know.

Finally, a big thank you to Alan Gidley who bravely tested and ended up grappling with the tariff confusion for sending his test package to the US at the Post Office earlier this year, but persisted. 

Is this a destitute Gidley family?

 Morning Post (London) 2 August 1821 

Two ladies and a child between 3 and 4 years old are desirous of becoming inmates of a genteel family within 20-50 miles of London. As their income is limited terms must be very moderate. Two bedrooms will be required. Address, post paid, to Mrs Gidley, 16 Queen Street, Brompton.

Morning Post 20 Oct 1821

To the affluent and benevolent. A Young Married Lady, under peculiar circumstances of distress and annoyance, drooping under oppression, and enduring with her infant the greatest privations, appeals to the Benevolent for the loan of £50 to be repaid at such periods as may be fixed upon within 12 months. The advertiser has a small independent income (though not at present available) which will enable her to reimburse the Lender with liberal interest. To the kind and feeling heart this appeal is made, to such a detail would be submitted as could not fail to interest those in whom power and inclination unite to befriend the unfortunate. Letters, post paid, to Mrs Gidley, Unwhyn's Library, No. 4 Catherine Street, Strand, will be gratefully acknowledged.

It's possible they are accommodation addresses or Gidley is even an assumed name. The details are too sparse to identify any likely candidates. Comments welcome!

Some unsuccessful 19th century Gidley business people

All the following were bankrupted at some point in their lives. Sources and far more information on individuals is available on the Gidley One Name Study website  Gidley One Name Study.

1. The only woman in the list is Elizabeth Gidley, a dressmaker of Dover Street, Piccadilly, London, in the early 1820s. There are two possibilities for her. One is Elizabeth Gidley, daughter of Robert Gidley and Elizabeth Hill, born in Shoreditch, London, in 1773. Robert was a native of Rattery, Devon, so is found on the Dean Prior tree. Elizabeth married William Slaughter in London in 1823, her residence being given as Leamington, Warwickshire. Did she make a fresh start there? Elizabeth died in Southampton in 1854. 

The second possibility is Elizabeth Gidley, daughter of John Gidley and Elizabeth Davis. They are on one of the tiny London trees, with no clue as to their origin. John Gidley was a tailor, buried in Marylebone in 1815. He was of sufficient standing for his vote to be recorded in  a Westminster poll book. Elizabeth was christened in 1789 in St James', Piccadilly, and possibly buried in 1849 in St Clement Danes in London, but her age in the burial register is several years out from her christening date.

2. Thomas Gidley, a journeyman butcher, of Chipping Ongar, Essex. Between December 1852 and September 1853 there are insolvency petitions at Chelmsford County Court. He was imprisoned in Chelmsford gaol for insolvency, but finally discharged from custody, there being no detaining creditor. Probably not unconnected with the insolvency, he also appeared in court in 1852 for appropriating funds (£31 16s 6d) from Chipping Ongar Odd Fellows Society, of which he was a member, for his own use. The case was thrown out because of confusion regarding his permission to store the money. He worked as a journeyman butcher for a family member, Miss Gidley, possibly a sister, also of Ongar. He may have been the Thomas Gidley of Glemsford, Suffolk, charged in 1858 with trespassing on land at Borley, Essex, in search of game. He was fined £3 6s, in default 2 calendar months' imprisonment. Thomas died in 1859.

3. Thomas' brother Gustavus Gidley also went bankrupt. A button manufacturer, he was bankrupted twice, in 1833 and 1835. His addresses were given as Wood Street, Cheapside, London, and Cateaton Street, London. Unfortunately he also managed to get his father, John Gidley of Ongar imprisoned for bankruptcy too. In 1841 Gustavus was a [commercial] traveller and in 1851 an india rubber manufacturer. He died in Liverpool in 1863.

4. John Gidley of Chipping Ongar. Father of Thomas and Gustavus. Described in the newspaper report as an elderly gentleman, his occupation had been Surveyor of Taxes for Ongar for over 30 years, having been previously in the Excise and brought up a large family. Expecting a superannuation of over £70 p.a. for his long service, he had guaranteed his son Gustavus' order of £300 worth of goods from Messrs Knight and Holdsworth for his son's manufacturing business. Gustavus' bankruptcy meant that only a dividend was paid. The court in 1835 gave judgment that John Gidley had guaranteed the order without reasonable means of payment and sentenced him to 5 months ' imprisonment. He died in 1845. He did indeed have a large family of 12 children, but many did not survive him. No fewer than six died in their 30s or early 40s, two died abroad (one in the Crimea), and one died as a child. Most were unmarried.

5. Another, younger, Gustavus Gidley, a share broker and bill discounter, became insolvent in 1855, Based in Torquay, Devon, he was born in Throwleigh, Devon. His tangled financial arrangements amounted to great misconduct, according to the judge, after Gustavus implicated his brother John Gidley, who denied any involvement with him. He had already passed all his property to his parents in Throwleigh, who agreed to pay £350 into the court within a week. The landlady of the lodging house where he lived occasionally, Sophia Vilet or Viret, was also in the habit of lending him small amounts of money, which she said were always repaid. In fact in 1857, after his release from prison and when his bankruptcy was finally annulled, Gustavus married Sophia. They had no children. His parents, George and Mary Gidley, were dealing at the same time with another son, William Gidley, imprisoned for larceny by a servant in 1856. George was a cooper and landlord of the Royal Oak in Throwleigh.

6. James Gidley of Chagford, Devon, applied to be discharged from bankruptcy in 1836. No further details of his bankruptcy, but he was described as a butcher, tallow chandler and beerhouse keeper. He was in Christow, Devon, working as a butcher in 1841. His finances had recovered for him to be a farmer of 43 acres in Christow in 1851, but was a pauper in the local Poor House in 1861. Having moved back to Chagford by 1871, he died there in 1873. His son William made regular appearances for various misdemeanours at Exeter Quarter Sessions.

7. Thomas Gidley, late of Buckfastleigh, Devon, yarn spinner and woollen manufacturer, was an insolvent debtor confined in St Thomas Gaol, Devon in April 1825. No further details, but in 1841 he had returned to woolcombing in Buckfastleigh, and in 1851 he was a wool sorter in Horrabridge, Devon. He died in the Tavistock area in 1861. His only son, Samuel Hawkins Gidley, emigrated to Beaver Dam, Wisconsin, where he was also a wool sorter in the woollen mills and was described as an exemplary man.

8. John Gidley of Drake Street, Plymouth, Devon, a grocer and tea dealer, then of Devonport, a grocer's shopman, applied to be discharged from bankruptcy in April 1827. There are 2 candidates for him: one because of his address and the other because of his occupation. John Gidley of Ashburton, who died in 1853 was described in his newspaper death announcement as a grocer and tea dealer, though there is no evidence he ever worked in Plymouth. Hhis official death certificate describes him as a woolcomber, which tallies with the 1841 and 1851 censuses. 

The other candidate is John Gidley, buried in Plymouth in 1828, the year following the bankruptcy appeal, of Drake Street. He was the son of Thomas Dingle Gidley, a son of Bartholomew Gidley the spendthrift and his third wife, born when his father was over 80. John Gidley's wife Rebecca had died in 1826 after less than two years' marriage and John followed her in 1828, aged only 27.

8. Richard Gidley was imprisoned in Plymouth Gaol for debt in 1831. He owed £5 1s 5d plus £7 1s 8d costs. He was probably one of the Richard Gidleys, father and son, carpenters of Egg Buckland, Devon. The father was born in 1776 and died in Egg Buckland in 1845. The son was born in 1804, emigrated to Baltimore, USA between 1833-1839 and died on Prince Edward Island, Canada in 1883.

9. Nicholas Gidley was insolvent in 1848 in Totnes, Devon. He had assets of £6 12s 71/2d. He had various jobs throughout his life (1807-1881): sailor in the Royal Navy, then in 1841 landlord of the King William IV in Totnes (which possibly led to the bankruptcy), in 1851 a baker in Totnes, in 1861 a woolcomber in his native village of Buckfastleigh, Devon, then a final move to the woollen industry in Yorkshire where he died.

10. Finally, there is Gidley Lewis, who is one of the few Gidley descendants in the maternal line on the Gidley One Name Study website. His bankruptcy in 1828, when he was a straw hat manufacturer and dealer, led eventually to his transportation to Van Diemens Land. According to his defence at the Old Bailey in 1835, the pressing demands of his creditors led to his paying out £4 or £5 more than his salary. His wife was ill and he eventually stole silk, damask, veils and handkerchiefs from his employer and pawned them. As a warehouseman and traveller with what were described as respectable connections, he had easy access to the materials. He was sentenced to14 years' transportation to Tasmania, where he was given conditional pardons in the 1840s and eventually died there in 1873. He was the son of Frances Gidley and Edward Lewis, a haberdasher, and was born in Southwark, London, in 1792. Frances was a daughter of Robert Gidley of Honiton, Devon, and a sister of Jasper Maudit Gidley who fought in the American Revolutionary War on the American side.

Edmund Gidley, privateer

 I recently read an article in Who Do You Think You Are magazine about privateers, and remembered we have our own Gidley privateer, Edmund Gidley, who commanded a privateer, the Hornet, for a brief period.

A Royal Navy Sloop of War, similar to the Hornet

Privateers were a sort of legalised pirate or a privatised navy. They operated within the law, only against a country Britain was at war with, and had to jump through several legal and financial hoops before they were given a licence to operate. After that, all the spoils of captured ships belonged to the ship's owners, so it was profitable, but very dangerous. The owners would take about half of the profits, and the crew would share the remainder, with the captain taking about 12 shares. and able seamen 1 share. Those who operated outside the law were treated severely and indeed in November 1759 the Commander of the Pluto Privateer and four volunteers were tried for "piratically and feloniously" robbing the Master of a Dutch vessel and sentenced to death.

Edmund Gidley was from a well-off family which had connections with the Royal Navy. He was christened in Crediton in May 1734, the next to last son of John Gidley and Margaret Ellicombe of the Winkleigh branch of Gidleys. One of Edmund's sisters became the mother of Philip Gidley King, who took a more traditional route of remaining in the Royal Navy before becoming the second Governor of New South Wales. Edmund's younger brother Gustavus was the keen follower of John Wesley, and founded Gidley's chapel in Exeter (see blog post 3 Oct 2020). Their father John Gidley had been apprenticed to the Town Clerk of Exeter in 1711. He died in 1761 and was buried in Spreyton.

Presumably Edmund joined the Navy, then moved to Bristol, where he married Catherine Nicholas in 1758. That same year there is a record of his being the Commander (Captain) of the ship Hornet which had a crew of 35, 8 carriage and 6 swivel guns. It was owned by the Company of Bristol Merchants. 

Ships are much easier to trace than people in newspapers of the 18th century and it was relatively easy to trace the history of the Hornet in its progress from a Royal Navy Sloop of War to a French privateer back to Navy service and finally as a British privateer. In September 1756 it had been retaken by the Deal Castle Man of War and described as a large privateer, "taken from us in the last war". It returned to Navy service and its Captain, Captain Salt, was tried by court-martial in February 1758 for an unspecified breach of duty. 

In April 1758 it was still in Navy service and brought in a small French privateer, taken on the north side of Hispaniola, but by 5 Oct 1758 the National Archives record HCA 26/10/80 gives Edmund Gidley as the commander of the Hornet Privateer. However, he did not remain long as Commander of the Hornet. The peak of his achievement must have been in November 1858 when the Hornet Privateer brought into Bristol a Dutch ship from the West Indies, having 800 hogheads of sugar aboard. In December 1758 Lloyd's List reported that it had returned to Bristol from "Cruize" (in the West Indies?). By August 1759 ownership of "one of the fastest sailing privateers" had apparently been transferred to London and its Commander was Captain Harden.

There is no trace so far of a death or burial for Edmund Gidley, but his widow Catherine remarried in 1773 to James Davis. I have found no record of any children for Edmund and Catherine.

Some Gidley postcards

 A very kind gentleman, who has been collecting postcards for years, sent me recently four postcards addressed to four different Gidley ladies. Two are difficult to date, but two clearly have the postmarks 1906 and 1902. I am happy to send them to descendants or close relatives.

The Sep 13 1906 postcard is addressed to Miss C. Gidley of Kilburn Hall in Torquay. This is Constance Gidley, whose 13th birthday it must have been, as it is wishing her many happy returns from Auntie and Uncle M. and W. in Norwood, London S.E. Constance became a milliner with the department store Bobby's and married Walter Bird in 1921.

The postcard to Mrs M. C. Gidley of Bridgetown, Totnes, is a Christmas greeting for 1902 from C. Moore in Rome. This is Mrs Mary Coulton Gidley (1836-1928), the wife of Richard Gidley, former Relieving Officer in Totnes. Eight of her ten children predeceased her, but she does have descendants. 

The second Christmas greetings card is addressed to Mrs F Gidley of Beaumont Place in Plymouth from Dick and Mary. Formerly Edith Rockey, she was tragically widowed in 1917 by the First World War and married again in 1920. As the card is addressed to Edith and Fred, the date must be before 1917.

The final card is for Miss Jean Gidley of Seymour Lodge, Totnes. It seems to be from an American or Canadian, who writes from "your side of the mighty puddle", from Chamonix in France. It was written to Alice Jean Courtenay Gidley (1868-1940), daughter of Bartholomew Gidley, a wine merchant. She composed pieces for the organ, and died unmarried.